jthrash 2022-12-02 00:20:13

I know Dall-E 2 is heavily censoring art to get more support and funding from big businesses like Microsoft, maybe that’s what’s happening here, replacing testicles with yummy ice cream balls?

I’m convinced that over-zealous, possibly ideologically-motivated censorship on every AI art algorithm except perhaps Stable Diffusion, combined with an extremely-unforgiving banning system on Dall-E in particular, might be the one thing that could prevent AI art from taking over after all. For example, if you need gun designs for a video game from Dall-E, you’re out of luck because pictures of all guns and weapons (possibly even made-up ones like Mega Man’s Mega Buster) are not allowed. And you can find images of the male incubus, but you’re one step closer to a perma-ban if you look up the female succubus.

Of course, they have to be just like YouTube’s much-maligned content control system in that they won’t tell you what will get you banned and it’s secretly changing all the time, so the examples I told you may have been replaced by even more-arbitrary things.

So there you go, the potential worst enemies to AI art algorithms are going too “corporate” too soon. The creators are so concerned with censoring everything potentially offensive so they can get that sweet funding from big companies and not fixing potentially bigger problems like the algorithm’s tendency to steal from artists without their consent. That could change soon, and again Stable Diffusion seems to be wisely giving their users more freedom than Dall-E or Midjourney, but there is a tiny chance that, if these “tech bros” are not careful, AI art will end up in the same pathetic state as NFTs and “the metaverse” by the end of next year.

I remember recently being so mad at myself because I spent most of 2021 worrying and fretting about the environmental impact of NFTs and whether they will destroy the world, and now outside of Elon Musk’s Twitter and the video game company Square Enix, nobody in their right mind would spend a single penny on crypto (let alone think it’s “the future”) and major crypto companies like FTX are going down in absolute flames right now. I wasted all that energy for nothing, so unless we’re still talking about AI art 3 years from now I’ll just keep focusing on improving my own art.

jthrash 2022-12-02 11:59:41

@TheMiamiDeSantos Of course, given the course of technology, something will replace our specialties and we’ll need to change and adapt, even if it might be some other technology besides AI.

I remember a documentary on the Dreamworks movie called Spirit (the one about the horse) that always makes me sad because one animator said, (I’m paraphrasing because I haven’t seen it in a while) “computer-generated 3D animation is great, but it will NEVER replace hand-drawn animation. There will always be a place for traditional 2D animation!”

jthrash 2022-12-02 12:09:50

@TheMiamiDeSantos Also, sometimes change can be good in a way. Disney’s new animated movie, Strange World, is absolutely bombing at the box office and a lot of experts in the US are concluding that it’s because people are getting bored of how computer-generated Disney movies basically look the same. Therefore, Hollywood needs to start getting more creative and colorful with art styles to survive, and movies from competitors like Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse and Dreamworks’ The Bad Guys are starting to do that to take advantage of Disney’s recent mistakes.

jthrash 2022-12-02 13:32:28

@TheMiamiDeSantos Well yes, it will still be CGi and it will still be “cute,” but hopefully it will at least encourage Hollywood artists to get more creative with how their movies look—make it more “unconventionally” cute or pretty.

But I agree, boring animation that looks the same is only part of the problem. Every American animated movie has to be written for very little children to do well, not even something for 9 or 10 year olds who are outgrowing Disney (but still too young for anime) can sit through. Star Wars, Marvel and even mature-rated Netflix shows can feel very juvenile, too (you’d think it wouldn’t be that hard in this day and age to write a female character who talks like a real human being and not some ‘90’s “girl power” token character). The hack writing combined with people just looking for an “okay” movie to put on the TV while they work is the real problem.

I just miss the 1990’s, when executives looked at Ren and Stimpy or South Park and thought “Yep, these are cute and marketable characters that will sell toys all around the world and make us a ton of money!” But at the same time, at least it’s not like the 1980’s, where you couldn’t turn to Newgrounds or the weird side of YouTube if “Little Clowns of HappyTown” was too tame for you because the Internet as we know it didn’t exist yet.

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KhaosKitsune617 2023-11-21 17:20:01

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